Usury, Slavery, Sex Crimes, And How It All Goes Back To Rome And Babylon (Interview)

Source: Real Currencies

"You never change things by fighting against the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete." ~ Buckminster fuller

I was interviewed by Daniel at the Power Hour Radio show (nationally syndicated!).

The whole thing is absolutely worth while, it's the stuff we've been talking about here on Real Currencies.

But in the in the second half things become pretty spicy, and I'll transcribe a few minutes of that below, because it offers some insight that I haven't been sharing as widely. We'll just dive right into it, starting at 41:30.

Anthony: (discussing the slavery of Usury) "And it is slavery, because historically, in Antiquity, slavery was the universal human condition, and you got enslaved in two ways. Either because some pirate went to conquer this or that place, killing half of the population and enslaving the rest, because that is what these fools did at the time, or because you got into debt. And all of the slaves in Rome, or half or so, were people who got into debt, and interest rates in Rome were 48% or 24%, depending on the year…….

Daniel: (whistles in disbelief)

A: "yeah, that's massive, I mean 48 or 24%, that's killing, nobody is going to manage to pay that. And if you could not pay, you and your children were enslaved. That's what happened. And to make it worse, let me put it very bluntly, because it is good to know what kind of people we're dealing with here, you would see your kid become a sex slave of a Patrician, who was not even ashamed of having these children commit sex acts on them! Because this was the nature of the Patricians in Rome, they were the scum of the Earth, and they were the same people in Carthage….."

Daniel: "Sounds like the Bankers nowadays."

A: "Absolutely!"

D: “Are you familiar with this, uhh….I don't remember this guy’s name, he was a Dutch Banker that came out a few years ago talking about the Satanism?"

A: "Ronald Bernard"

D: "Explain that, tell our audience about that story, because that was crazy."

A: "Yeah, I've known Ronald for years, I know everybody in the monetary reform movement here, of course, also in America, and Ronald has been active with "De Blije Bank", he calls it, 'The Happy Bank' it's called, because, uh…..well, never mind why, but the Happy Bank, with which he's looking to provide low cost, or at any rate ecologically sustainable, socially sustainable credit to small business, etc.

He'd been working in the banking industry for years, and he rose through the ranks, and the higher you get, because everything in the World is a pyramid, big corporations, secret societies, and also very much the banking industry, so when you rise higher in the pyramid, you start to see the secrets of these people, and he got invited into all sorts of shady things, and he saw how these people operated, how they totally annihilated and destroyed people, and when they killed themselves in pure agony, how they laughed their balls off, had parties, buying $10k bottles of Champagne to celebrate what they had done, and next he was invited into eh……because that’s the kind of scum these people are, you know?! They look good with their Rolls Royces, flashy suits, huge mansions, but they’re the scum of the earth, these money lenders, these speculators, Banksters. And Ronald Bernard, he saw the methods of these people, and he was also invited into even more sinister things, like child sacrifices etc., and that's when he had a nervous breakdown and decided to get out of there.

And he's not the only one I know who has told this story, because I also know a Swiss ex-Banker, Siebenthal, Francois Siebenthal, and he's told very similar stories, and has turned away from the Banks as well, and is now also a campaigner for interest-free money."

D: "Let me be clear, for everybody who's listening, because your English, you're pretty clear for me, but I'm also watching you, so it's a little easier for me to follow you, high level Bankers have come out in Europe, Ronald, I can't remember his last name, and you mentioned another one, they've been very clear, that the banking industry works as a pyramid, the higher you go, you are asked to do more and more depraved things, the higher you go, the more depravity you've got to show, to be able to make this rise, you're talking about Satanism, child sacrifice, sex, depravity, any depravity that you can think about, that is the Banking industry, is that accurate? Yes or no."

A: "Yeah…….I mean, all these stories that you hear about Podesta, and all these things, they are real, I won't say Podesta is involved, although he of course probably is….."

D: "Allegedly."

A: "Exactly. But these stories are all true, and they go directly back to Babylon and Rome, and there it was all out in the open, but nowadays, they have to be more discrete about these things…….

D: "Oh my God……."

A: "but they are still on going and……”

D: "I'm so glad you brought up Roman history, and again, I apologize for cutting you off again, but I have to put a stamp on what you're saying, this is why history is so important, and when you don’t know your history, then these things seem retarded. Rome, this was open in Rome. This was openly the way things were done in Rome. Do you think it's any different now?”

A: (mockingly) "Civilization………."

D: "Yeah, yeah, 'Civilization'. Let's bring some 'civilization' to the World."

A: "They were total brutes, and Rome was just a plunder operation, that's all it was, and with their plunder they built some pretty buildings, and this is what keeps the masses in awe: 'oh, ah, look how pretty!', but it was all built on blood and gore, and what they did to the Gauls and the other tribes was just ghastly. And that's how they operated, and that's Empire."
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Anthony Migchels is a world-renowned usury free monetary reform activist, historian and developer. The "Florijn" is his brainchild in Holland.

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