Tuesday, March 16, 2010

Field McConnell & David Hawkins: Transcript—10 March 2010 Hour 2

Source: rumormillnewsradio.com, hawkscafe, captainsherlock.com

Hawkins/McConnell Interview with Rayelan Allan on Rumor Mill News
March 10, 2010 – Part 2 (Hour 2)

Note: This transcript begins at precisely the 15:04 minute point into the interview.

Rayelan Allan: And ah, David is back. And David is on the line, wonderful.  Welcome, David.

David Hawkins: Oh, hello Rayelan, hello Field, nice to be back. Yeah, I just got in from the hospital, yup.

Rayelan: Ahh…

Field McConnell: We hope that your trip was successful.

David: Yes, pretty good. Quite good news and ah, Maren, Lady Eagle is responding to treatment.

Rayelan: Oh, how wonderful. And I want to thank all of our ah, oh my gosh, reiki practitioners who are continually doing ah, you know, reiki, absent, you know, long distance reiki treatments on her.

David: Yeah, and I’d like to say thanks in her behalf and mine and all of the good wished and so on. I think it’s a good ah, real drive towards her recovery, but you know, we’re not out of the woods yet.

Rayelan: I know, but it is wonderful that she is doing better. All of us are very happy for her and you.

David: Thank you.

Rayelan: And you – Field and I were talking about why is this Durius Guppy on the front page of Abel Danger and do you know why?

David: Oh, absolutely. Darius Gumpy – Guppy, is one of Bullingdon Club eighty-seven members who um, the Bullingdon Club is an interesting group. It’s over two-hundred years old so it was formed just after the war of independence, which Americans think they won, but I’m now I’m now studying the history a little better. I don’t think you guys did win actually. [concurred, the British are still rampaging around the world, that should be obvious by now]

Rayelan: *garbled*

David: Anyway, that’s a different matter, but the Bullingdon Club ah, has a very nasty habit of an oath taking ritual in order to get into it, and it’s an Oxford University-based club of which the Duke of Windsor was one.

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: Ah, Edward the seventh before he abdicated.

Rayelan: Yes.

David: And um, and the future, or the possible future Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, David Cameron, was a Bullingdon Club member with this guy Darius Guppy. And Darius Guppy’s father lost a fortune and his home in the Lloyd’s insurance scandal of the nineties. And Darius Guppy and his felling - fellow bulling – Bellingdon Club members wanted revenge on Lloyds. So what Guppy did is, he arranged a virtual jewel heist in New York [I think this is it and as usual, blame the Jews] with a gunman to tie him up, I don’t know if he pistol whipped him or not, but the gunman allegedly stole the jewels then Guppy put in a claim to Lloyd’s of London and got one point eight million dollars.

Rayelan: Okay.

David: And that might have stain – stayed one of the perfect crimes, virtual jewel heist if you will, except that three years later, one of Guppy’s accomplices who was a police guy, tried to repeat that kind of offense and he was picked up and the whole conspiracy unraveled, right. But essentially, it goes back to a Bullingdon Club member arranging in New York a virtual crime and then claiming money from Lloyds for compensation.

Rayelan: Ahuh.

David: And now think that ah, nine-one-one was a repeat on a much bigger scale of retribution for Lloyds for losing a lot of money on behalf of wealthy families in the United Kingdom, some of whom committed suicide including Guppy’s father.

Rayelan: Oh my God.

David: And the next generation who lost the families wealth, and I’m talking about serious money here, like in the billions of dollars.

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: This is old money that stretches all the way back to Cecil Rhodes who was a Bullingdon Club member.

David: Oh my gosh, the founder of the Round Table.

David: These people have basically appeared to have created an intelligence network that appears to have piggy backed on the sabotage, assassination networks built during the second world war integrated their operations with the CIA, and continued pillaging and killing and paying off the killers through claims on Lloyd’s of London。

Rayelan: Amazing.

David: So we know that James Delingpole, who runs the blogspot in the Daily Telegraph in the United Kingdom, and Field and I are both members, and we communicate with Delingpole on a regular basis, and he went to Oxford University. And he…

Rayelan: Mhm, that’s where you went right?

David: I went to Cambridge.

Rayelan: Oh, you went to Cambridge, okay.

David: And I’m challenging these guys on a Oxford verses Cambridge debate on global warming, but let’s not go there for the moment. What Cecil Rhodes said back in the late nineteenth century, “Wherever you go in the world except for science, you find an Oxford man at the top.” And Cecil Rhodes [psychopath and racist extraordinaire] was a Freemason, but he realized the Freemasons were never going to get anywhere and he formed a secret society which we think was a corruption of the old Bullingdon Club which was really focused on cricket and booze and women.

Commentary from Banzai: Mark Twain's summation of Cecil Rhodes: "I admire him, I frankly confess it; and when his time comes I shall buy a piece of the rope for a keepsake"

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: And it looks around that time, and remember, Cecil Rhodes built the world’s most successful diamond company, DeBeers? [diamonds are cheap, it's the marketing]

Rayelan: Yes.

David: Which at one stage had a ninety percent monopoly on the world diamond trade.

Rayealan: Mhm.

David: And they I think ran up against the Oppenheimer Group and around the nineteen eighties or nineties ah, they corned a consultant, Baign [not sure on spelling] and Company and they reorganized and instead of having a monopoly of sales and buying um, they basically took over the diamond supply chain world-wide and extorted people into paying protection money.

Rayelan: Interesting.

David: Anyway, fast forward to Guppy.

Rayelan: Okay.

David: Guppy, we think, and his fellow Bullingdon Club members of nineteen eighty-seven including a man called Sebastian Grigg, who was the Goldman Sachs media investment manager – director?

Rayelan: Mhm, mhm.

David: Conceived of nine-one-one as an opportunity to punish Lloyds for the destruction it had reeked on their family wealth and filed hil – huge claims through the underwriters of Lloyds to basically destroy their enemies in Lloyds names which my brother was one.

Rayelan: Oh my gosh, so your brother was destroyed too.

David: No he wasn’t ah, he got out in time, but I don’t know if you remember the asbestos scam?

Rayelan: Ah, no I don’t.

David: Well, it was claimed there was asbestos installed in buildings and that would trigger cancer.

Rayelan: Right.

David: There was only one problem with that. The particular kind of asbestos used is not the kind that is found or triggers ah, a can – cancer kind of reaction in lungs, it was a pure insurance scam.

Rayelan: Oh boy.

David: Now the…go ahead.

Rayelan: So people who worked in those buildings were able to sue for asbestos contamination?

David: Yes, in a fraud on Lloyds. So, the Lloyd’s chairman, I think his name is David Coleridge, after the poet, he’s descended from the poet?

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: His son was at the Bullingdon Club in nineteen eighty-seven, so there was a direct connection between the chairman of Lloyds, who during the seventies had been selling the idea of being a Lloyds name to many wealthy Americans, and basically it’s a scam because they were setting up these wealthy Americans and wealthy Brits and wealthy Australians and wealthy people to invest in Lloyds in the belief that money would be safe and they would receive premiums. But when you become a Lloyd's name, you put all your wealth on the table.

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: If there’s a claim you’re cleaned out.

Rayelan: Wow.

David: Right, so when these asbestos claims were filed by crony lawyers including Sidley Austin, they basically stripped the wealthiest people in the world of, I think from memory it was twenty-four million Pounds, it’s a about fifty billion dollars. Huge amounts of money, many of these people committed suicide, they lost everything, their families, their homes, their estate. But you see, what happens then is, you end up with some very angry children.

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: Now if you send those children to Oxford and they join a club which has certain kinds of oath taking rituals, you end up with basically, I would argue, a network of very sophisticated and capable ah, saboteurs and assassins and propaganda agents.

Rayelan: Right, right.

David: World-wide, right? Because these people go to the very highest levels including, not necessarily because he was a Bullingdon Club member, but the Rhodes scholarship scheme, we think, is used to recruit saboteurs, assassins and ah, propaganda agents and turn them around. And of course we have the classic example of a lying treasonous rapist drug trafficker, who’s a Rhodes Scholar in nineteen sixty-nine, you know who I’m talking about.

Rayelan: Yeah, I do, but the rest of the world – rest of our listeners may not?

David: Bill Clinton.

Rayelan: Of course.

David: Alright, so I said to the Dellingpole people and any Oxford people who want to take us on in a debate, was Bill Clinton a lying treasonous rapist drug trafficking scumbag before he came to Oxford, or because he went to Oxford?

Rayelan: Well, I think he was before he got to Oxford. He was…

David: Therefore he was recruited at Oxford.

Rayelan: Yeah, he was a rapist before he went there.

David: Okay, but he didn’t have the full spectrum including drug trafficking.

Rayelan: That’s correct, he did not.

David: Now, when he got to Oxford, I believe he was recruited using the same methods the fabulous five recruited in Cambridge in the fifties. And these people, Burgess and McClean, were top level Soviet agents, and of course if you think in America you don’t have those kind of people, you of Richard Hanssen, or Robert Hanssen

Rayelan: Right.

David: Right, who was at the Senior Executive Service, counter-intelligence at the FBI, a top grade Soviet agent, at least that’s what they say. I think he was working for other people, we can cover that, and what Richard – Robert Hanssen did is, he stole, and I will allege with the help of Field’s sister, either wittingly or unwittingly, all the continuity of government ah, codes that were used to switch the red team and the blue team during the nine-one-one attack and he gave them to the enemies of the people, while the people who intended grievous bodily harm to ahm, the United States on nine-one-one including the people who would be ultimately responsible we believe we think for the death of Chic Burlingame.

Rayelan: That is just amazing, it is...ah, how is Lloyd’s of London, how did Lloyd’s of London survive this?

David: It – well many of them didn’t. But you see, Lloyd’s, Lloyd’s of London, it’s a fascinating and absolutely core business. It started at Lloyd’s Coffee House in sixteen eighty-eight in London.

Rayelan: Yes.

David: And it was a group of wealthy people who worked out a method of making a decent amount of money by insuring cargoes by going to the far east with spices, alright? So the ship owners who bore the risk of that would pay a premium to ultimately would be an extremely wealthy group of people who are called Lloyd’s Name. So if you’re a Lloyd’s name, your invited to be a Lloyd’s name, you put all your money on the table potentially, and you’re offered theoretically, a very nice premium income ah, tax free. Now, between you and the Lloyd’s name, i.e., an investor, there’s a group of people called ‘Lloyd’s brokers’ who sell the idea to you and then Lloyd’s syndicates who go out and find people who are running risks and try and sell them ah, insurance cover and collect a decent premium. Now remember, this started in sixteen eighty-eight, but very early on you can see the possibility of fraud here.


David: People ahm…and I’m not quite sure of the initiation ceremony here of Skull and Bones, but I believe in the states the Skull and Bones Club has a very high profile because of the people who have been members?

Rayelan: Yes, that’ s absolutely true.

David: But, I don’t know when the Skull and Bones club was founded, but looking at this Bullingdon Club dating back to just after war of independence and looking at the power of Cecil Rhodes in the nineteenth century, I would say that this is the Skull and Bones on steroids.

Rayelan: Ah, it would sound like it.

David: Now, there is an initiation ceremony which is absolutely fundamental to I think that the Bullingdon Club members, or network, was behind nine-one-one. And what the Bullingdon Club does, first it’s a very aristocratic club, the kind of people that would join are people like Nat – Nathaniel Rothschild.

Rayelan: Right.

David: And Rothschild’s family financed Cecil Rhodes with his diamond mining.

Rayelan: That’s correct.

David: So that’s going back, you, you can see there’s very serious money involved. Now, Nathaniel ah, Rothschild is a member, or was a member of the nineteen eighty-seven Bullingdon Club at Oxford University.

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: With, Barius Guppy.

Rayela: Okay.

David: And David Cameron, and a man called Sebastian Grigg, who on leaving Oxford would work for Goldman Sachs.

Rayelan: How interesting.

David: Now Goldman Sachs remember, is the bank that made a killing through nine-one-one…

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: …and subsequently with this bail out scam engineered with the help of Obama.

Rayelan: Yeah, that’s correct.

David: So, we need to pay a great deal of attention on who Goldman Sachs and friends and connections are that enabled them to position themselves on the right side of nine-one-one and the right side of the bailout, because now they have become the world’s effectively largest and most powerful investment bankers.

Rayelan: Right, and is AIG also connected right in there with Goldman Sachs?

David: Ab - absolutely and, let me, let me back up here, because I want to lead towards the murder of Chic Burlingame.

Rayelan: Okay.

David: On nine-one-one he was the pilot – I want Field to jump in whenever he’s comfortable if that’s alright, Field? Because Field knows Chic Burlingame.

Rayelan: Right.

David: And Field has actually got a great deal of information now about the way a marine, like Chic Burlingame would normally have responded to a hijacking happening to prevent it happening to the extent that actually theoretically the platform that he was flying in took out the US Naval Command Center in the Pentagon which I think from a strategic point of view would be totally impossible from a guy sitting in a cave in Afghanistan.

Rayelan: I agree with you. And ah, the day on nine-eleven, Osama Bin Laden denied having anything to do with it.

David: Right, well…

Rayelan: That was the last time anybody ever heard from the real Osama Bin Laden.

David: Okay, well this is where it gets really exciting because, now remember, after nine-one-one, the guy who was organizing the desk top war games on the fourth of June in two-thousand and one by the name of Doctor Thomas Bar – Barnett…

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: …who was the chief war game organizer for the US Navy War College?

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: …he had a test, or applied a test on the fourth of June two-thousand and one, in the Windows of the World Restaurant to a number of people who would die on nine-one-one which tested their commitment to this carbon dioxide reduction...

Rayelan: Oh my gosh.

David: …to save the planet from global warming.

Rayelan: Ahuh.

David: Including a man by the name of Carlton Bartels who was the founder of CO2 dot com, so Thomas Barnett sitting at a dinner table, or a board room table with Carlton Bartels in the Windows of the World Restaurant on the hundred and seventh floor with the chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change ah, Rajendra Pachauri [verify meeting here, scroll down a bit, you will notice on the chart Bartels, Barnett and Pachauri in attendance], gave Carlton Bartels a test, called the ‘Ryer Identity Test’ [not sure if this is the correct name]whether or not, I think, he was going to live on nine-one-one. And he failed that test.

Rayelan: What kind of a test is this?

David: It’s a test to determine whether or not you are committed to the reduction of carbon dioxide to save the world from exponential global warning.

Rayelan: And so you know it’s not just a question are you committed to such-and-such, you’re actually…

David: It’s a test.

Rayelan: …take a test.

David: It’s a test on how much reduce – reduce the energy consumption per capital.

Rayelan: Oh, wow. [Rayelan, I think sometimes you are overwhelmed by it all]

David: And the carbon dioxide per unit of energy and the population in order to bring carbon dioxide down in a given supply chain to the point where it is no longer a threat to the planet, and Carlton Bartels failed that test. Now, very interestingly, that test had what is called a computer algorithm in it, i.e., the computer couldn’t determine by your answers whether you would live or die.

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: And effectively the computer is saying, we start off as a computer thinking your a friend, i.e., you are a citizen of the United States, but if you give the wrong answers the computer will switch you automatically being recognized by the American Military as a foe. I don’t know if you have heard of friend or foe identification computer software?

Rayelan: No, I have now heard that.

David: Well Field, jump in if you know, if you think this is clear, but when a plane is heading towards the Pentagon, there’s a whole variety of signals that are going backwards and forwards between the plane and let’s say the US Naval Command Center at the Pentagon to determine whether or not the incoming plane is a friend or a foe.

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: if you can hack into that system through the algorithms and the computer and play around with the inputs, you can have the Pentagon treat the friend as a foe and the foe as a friend.

Rayelan: That’s exactly correct, I mean, didn’t just the other day somebody hacked into the Pentagon and said that the North Koreans bombed – sent a nuclear bomb to Guam.

David: Exactly.

Rayelan: Yeah.

David: Exactly, so the algorithm test that was given to Carlton Bartels in the Windows of the World Restaurant on the hundred and seventh floor of the North Tower on the fourth of June two-thousand and one by this guy, Thomas Barnett ah, allowed the computer to determine whether or not Carlton Bartels was a friend or a foe on nine-one-one. On nine-one-one it deemed him to be a foe and instructed the war games to treat Carlton Bartels and his colleagues in the North Tower as the enemy. They killed them all.

Rayelan: Wow.

David: Exactly the same thing on nine-eleven with the planes approaching the Pentagon during the war game ah, a number of people, and we think we know their names, got inside the encryption the friend or foe identification software during that war game, and switched the friends to the foes and the foes to the friends.

Rayelan: Unbelievable.

David: And ah, friend, he was Field McConnell’s friend I believe at the US Naval Academy in ah, is it nineteen seventy-nine, Field? *pause* Have we lost Field?

Rayelan: I don’t know. Field, are you there? I think we lost Field. Oh, but you know, we’ve got Big Wheel in Texas on the line. Ah, Big Wheel are you there?

Big Wheel: How are ya?

Rayelan: Yeah, we’ve got a caller, David.

David: Go ahead.

Rayelan: Go ahead big Field – Big Wheel.

Big Wheel: Hello, Rayelan, how are ya?

Rayelan: I’m, I’m fine but you’re going to have to speak up a bit because I can barely hear you.

Big Wheel: Okay, hold on, let me change my ah, change my area here. Hold on please.

Rayelan: Okay


Big Wheel: Okay, can you hear me now?

Rayelan: Ah, better, but you’re still going to have to speak up a bit.

Big Wheel: Okay ah, my ah, I don’t have a question but I do have a comment.

Rayelan: Okay.

Big Wheel: You were talking about Osama bin Laden and ah, and ah ah, Lady Diane and, and others ah, so called ah, I would say ah, these people, especially Osama bin Laden ah, they are very much alive and well, they’re, they’re in a safe place by our government, and when you think about it ah, these ah, these so called bad guys are not really the bad guys. Just like when they took all *garbled* hanging the ah, President of Iraq and ah, this man is alive and well and he is ah, ah, he is taken care of by our government ah, they’re in a secret place and I’m very, very quite sure, when it’s time the whole story will be told about nine-eleven.

David: Well, I think we can perhaps help there. Is there a question there?

Rayelan: No, he said he just had a comment.

David: Okay.

Rayelan: So ah, thank you, Big Wheel, thank you for that.

David: Thank you, yeah, so, well I’ll ah, I hope it gets on because I really wanted or hope he could ah, flesh out his knowledge of what Chic Burlingame response, who was the captain of ah, flight seventy-seven ahm, on nine-one-one. But I just want to come back to this ah, stuff about the Bullingdon Club.

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: Now, Thomas Barnett who gave the test, which Carlton Bartels failed on the fourth of June two-thousand and one, and resulted I believe in Thomas Barnett and his colleagues, recoding the software that was going to be handling the war games on nine-one-one so that ahm, Chic Burlingame will be treated as an enemy instead of a friend?

Rayelan: Yeah.

David: Thomas Barnett [Barnett's weblog] said after nine-one-one that of nine-one-one, “This was the first live broadcast mass snuff film in human history.” Now a snuff film is where you film someone dying.

Rayelan: Right.

David: And you generally sell that film because apparently there’s a market for certain sick folks round the world to watch someone being killed or possibly tortured to death.

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: And remember, this is a senior officer in the US Naval Academy in charge of war gaming on nine-one-one.

Field: Excuse me…

David: He use to lecture…

Field: Hang on, fire hose.

David: Pardon me. I’m sorry.

Field: It’s not the academy.

Rayelan: Okay, Field, go ahead.

Field: Yeah, it’s not the Naval Academy that he was at. It was the Naval War College.

Rayelan: Naval War College, okay.

David: Okay, okay, Field, can you just tell the listeners a little about friend or foe identification software of the kind that might have been used by Chic Burlingame and Captain DeConto in the US Naval Command Center?

Field: Yes, it’s a black box that’s in the cockpit of every military and every commercial ah, airliner, and it’s also in every private owned airplane that flies into controlled air space and ah, it’s a box where you are assigned a four digit code by the air traffic control agency that gives you your IFR, and that stands for Instrument Flight Rule. If you have an instrument flight rule clearance from the transportation people, which is the FAA via the control tower ah, then you’re given a four digit code which may be something like six one three seven, and then as you make your way across the air space, and let’s just use a flight plan that they used in preparation of the June first war game called Amalgam Virgo, if a, if a Boeing seven thirty-seven were to take off from Anchorage, Alaska, and it would be dispatched to Seattle, Washington it would fly basically due south from Anchorage to the Seattle area and ah, it might be assigned a code like one six two seven, however, if as was the case on nine-one-one, if drones were sent up to replace the airliners ah, the airliner itself would have its transponder electronically terminated, shut off, and you could do that remotely.

And both planes had this technology, well obviously since two-thousand and one and according to Lafonsa [not sure of spelling], since nineteen ninety-five. But ah, the transponder code sixteen twenty-seven, if that was assigned to a seventy thirty seven from Anchorage to ah, Seattle, you could have a drone go up there and replace it. Not only replace it terms of the radar signature, meaning ah, the primary radar that actually sends beams out and reflect off metal than come back to a dish antenna ah, that’s called ‘primary radar.’ But they have advanced radars too that just look for the transponder codes and has what’s called, by the controllers and pilots as a strip, s-t-r-i-p and ah, that comes from the day of the paper when the controllers use to have a paper strip of the aircraft id, the transponder code, the routing, the altitude cleared to, the destination airport, the time in route, the fuel on board, the people on board and the alternate airport.
That stuff can all be ah, electronically duplicated and that’s what we saw on nine-eleven and ah, in the case of this practice flight on June first of two-thousand and one ah, the track that shows up in the Amalgam Virgo thirty-five page briefing guide, which if cannot Google it and find it, we can provide it to you. That shows ah, the flight plan being corrupted over the Vancouver area, and the aircraft being redirected, or redispatched directly to Washington DC ostensibly to take out the US Capitol Building. And all of this would have appeared to the air traffic controllers as if a legitimate airliner had been taken over by humans when actually a legitimate airliner would have been taken over by technology. The crew, the passengers, and the hijackers, would have been put to sleep or terminated with gas, and the ah, airliner would have been replaced with a full scale drone.

And all drone means is a flying vehicle that’s operated with no human pilots and we’ve had those things going back over sixty years. Boeing has not come to grips with admitting that yet, but it is in fact the case. And ah, that’s what we saw on nine-eleven, the transponder codes were transferred from the legitimate airliners to the drone aircraft so it looked like to the air traffic controllers in Washington and in ah, New York, that they – the airliners themselves had reversed course and they were attacking these strategic financial and political targets which included the capitol, the Pentagon, World Trade One and World Trade Two, but ah, very important not to say World Trade Seven, that was not a attacked. So I hope I’ve explained the transponder to you but they can certainly see it’s a very simple piece of equipment and it’s very easy to ah, counterfeit a transponder code by simply turning off the legitimate transponder with that code sixteen twenty-seven and, and bringing online a repeater or a second transponder with that code sixteen twenty-seven. And there’s no way in the world that air traffic controllers on the ground can tell the difference between the flying objects.

David: Yeah, this, now this, what we’re hearing, Rayelan, is fantastic is because they’re – I’m sure, but he’s better looking than a horse, but this is straight from the horse’s mouth, I mean, this is Field McConnell who was a classmate of Chic Burlingame who was allegedly inside seventy-seven that hit the Pentagon, talking about what we now understand was a fundamental fraud on the American republic where there was a switch made through the algorithms of the computer that was supervising the war games so your friends became you foes and your foes became your friends….

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: …and the flight that Chic Burlingame was in was actually treated as the enemy, flown out over the Atlantic and vaporized.

Rayelan: Yeah, that’s what ah, that’s what I suspected. Actually ah, that is what certain people in the conspiracy world ah, shortly after nine-eleven suspected that also, but then suddenly all of these nine-eleven truthers in - came around and most of the ah, most of the work that was done by old time conspiracy people ah, was just completely passed over.

David: Well ah…

Rayelan: Ah, that was definitely one of the things…

David: And those deception techniques go back to the second world war, and in fact, in of many ways Americans, I’ll say this very nicely, you’re a very trusting people, right?

Rayelan: Yes, that’s true.

David: You didn’t have those decades or hundreds of years in Europe where everyone double crossed everyone else and there was killings and pogroms and so on, so when the British put their ah, counter-intelligence people into action, and their deception teams, I would argue that the UK had a far more sophisticated ah, sabotage, assassination and deception network from a global point of view than the Americans at the beginning of the second world war.

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: Remember, you, you came in I think relatively late, not late in a pejorative sense, it was relatively late so, there was no way the Offices of Strategic Services at the Rockefeller Plaza in New York would have built the network that was the predominant ah, counter-terrorist, or sabotage and assassination group that the Brits had at that time.

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: So, in nineteen forty-seven when the organization ah, the Offices of Strategic Services in Rockefeller Plaza was ah, shut down and converted to the CIA, the predominant network that provided sabotage, assassination and deception to that group, and it’s called ‘CIA/SAD’, was coming out of the United Kingdom, more specifically out of the BBC and the Bullingdon Club.

Rayelan: Hmm.

David: So fast forward, from nineteen forty-seven through the assassination of JFK and the use of Bell and Howell cameras to record snuff films ahm, on into the launch of the unabomb campaign out of Northwestern University in nineteen seventy-nine ah, the bombing of Pan Am one-o-three, I think that was in nineteen eighty-eight? Ah, the sabotage of the Bhopal insecticide plant, I think that was nineteen eighty-five?

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: Ah, the Beirut Barracks ah, killing of the marines, the ah, Waco, the Murray Building ah, the USS Cole in two-thousand, and nine-one-one, and the subsequent, like the Mumbai [excellent pictures available at this site] and the London Underground? If you look at the signature on all of these attacks, they are characteristic of the sabotage, assassination and deception teams built in the United Kingdom and integrated with the CIA in nineteen forty-seven.

Rayelan: Hmm.

Field: *garbled*

David: Now, very interesting…

Rayelan: Ah, Field’s got a comment. Go ahead, Field.

David: Yes.

Field: I think you may want to revisit another incident that occurred in nineteen ninety-two, and that’s the shooting at Ruby ridge in Idaho?

Rayelan: Yes.

Field: I think that may be ah, sponsored by the same group.

Rayealn: Did you get my…

David: Yeah ah, I think you’re right, Field, but…just coming to the big picture. I think we can make serious capital out of the fact that Field McConnell is a marine, he’s a fighter pilot, a very good one, or ex-fighter pilot, he knew Chic Burlingame. What I’ve always thought the way to crack these ah, ‘murder mysteries’ if you will, is to take the last thirty seconds of a victims life, like ah, Chic Burlingame…

Rayelan: Yes.

David: …the last thirty hours of that individual’s life, and the last thirty days. And if you’ve got the story in the thirty seconds as to the cause of death, and the thirty hours in the maneuvers up to the cause of the death, and the thirty days that covers the planning, and you end up with the same result on each time line, you’ve cracked a murder. So, we need to know what kind of war game scenarios were set up for the thirty hours at the end of which Chic Burlingame was dead. Now, the question is of course, where did he die? Did he die when this thing hit the Pen - the Pentagon…

Rayelan: Right.

David: …or did he die out over the Atlantic and the plane he was in was vaporized?

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: If you see my drift?

Rayelan: Yeah, I do, I do.

David: Now, so we come back to, how would the perpetrators of nine-one-one execute a fundamental switch that was right across the continent where friends became foes and foes became friends?

Rayelan: Mhm.

David: What they have to do there is to get inside the encryption system.

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